In this episode, Paul Buitink and Sven Kuijpers talk to Marcel Crok, chemist, climate scientist, author of the books: "The State of the Climate" and "Ecomodernism" and co-founder of Clintel: The Climate Intelligence foundation. This episode starts with Marcel's basic points of view. After that, the uncertainty of climate models and the lack of insight into the future that this entails are discussed in detail.
It then looks at the costs and benefits of different forms of climate policy and what their impact can be. The last part talks about energy consumption, how this relates to prosperity and what Marcel thinks would be a better alternative approach to deal with climate change. Finally, attention is paid to the lawsuit between Milieudefensie and Shell, in which Marcel is involved on behalf of Clintel.
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