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In this episode, Paul Buitink talks to Kees van der Pijl. Kees is a Dutch political scientist, specializing in international relations and political economy. In this conversation, Kees elaborates on the tensions that have arisen within NATO after the outbreak of the war between Ukraine and Russia. In it, he also looks ahead to the NATO summit that will take place on Tuesday 11 July and Wednesday 12 July.
He also analyzes America's role in this war and the way BRICS positions and expresses itself. Finally, Kees argues for a post-military society and expresses his expectations about the various outcomes of the war, including a possible nuclear escalation.
